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		<title>Comment on My 2009 Reading List by Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagreed with the premise of the book.  I will cite representative quotes and sections on the most essential disagreements.  Also, I read a special paperback edition, so the page numbers are from the edition I read.

This book is for men.  The book dripped with testosterone, and I appreciate Eldredge&#039;s desire to write to men.  Eldgredge sees that men have been emasculated in our current culture.  He calls for men to be men.  The author sprinkled personal stories and anecdotes throughout the book, some of which were humorous and entertaining.

Eldredge&#039;s premise is clear: &quot;The core of a man&#039;s heart is undomesticated &lt;em&gt;and that is good&lt;/em&gt;.&quot; [original emphasis] (p. 4).  Men are basically looking for adventure, and the greatest adventure of all is a relationship with a wild, untamed God.  Thus, man&#039;s undomesticated nature directly reflects God&#039;s character.  The author never connects man&#039;s undomesticated nature (his thirst for adventure or something greater than himself) as his fallen condition, which is NOT good.  Evidence of this is the lack of a clear presentation of Gospel, since there is no distinct need for redemption.

The author consistently demonstrated eisegesis (reading into the Scriptures).  For example, the author refers to the meeting of Boaz and Ruth in a field one night.  Scriptures tell us that Boaz put his blanket over Ruth to show his promise of protection.  The author purports that Boaz was drunk (thus irresponsible, acting as men usually do), and that Ruth was manipulative, causing Boaz to think that he had illicit sex with her (pp. 227-230).  Little research was done into the customs of the time, so the Bible is interpreted in light of 21st century ideas about society and culture.

Eldredge&#039;s concept of God&#039;s revelation leaves much to be desired.  &quot;God is intimately personal with us and he speaks in ways that are peculiar to our own quirky hearts -- not just through the Bible, but through the whole of creation.  To Stasi he speaks through movies.  To Craig he speaks through rock and roll (he called me the other day after listening to &quot;Running Through the Jungle&quot; to say he was fired up to go study the Bible).  God&#039;s word to me comes in many ways -- through sunsets and friends and films and music and wilderness and books.&quot; (p. 239) (The individuals Eldredge mentions are his immediate family)  Since revelation is held so vaguely, the author has no problem drawing spiritual inferences from culture, such as the theater, refering to several movies (most commonly Braveheart), all of which have no intention to present the Gospel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagreed with the premise of the book.  I will cite representative quotes and sections on the most essential disagreements.  Also, I read a special paperback edition, so the page numbers are from the edition I read.</p>
<p>This book is for men.  The book dripped with testosterone, and I appreciate Eldredge&#8217;s desire to write to men.  Eldgredge sees that men have been emasculated in our current culture.  He calls for men to be men.  The author sprinkled personal stories and anecdotes throughout the book, some of which were humorous and entertaining.</p>
<p>Eldredge&#8217;s premise is clear: &#8220;The core of a man&#8217;s heart is undomesticated <em>and that is good</em>.&#8221; [original emphasis] (p. 4).  Men are basically looking for adventure, and the greatest adventure of all is a relationship with a wild, untamed God.  Thus, man&#8217;s undomesticated nature directly reflects God&#8217;s character.  The author never connects man&#8217;s undomesticated nature (his thirst for adventure or something greater than himself) as his fallen condition, which is NOT good.  Evidence of this is the lack of a clear presentation of Gospel, since there is no distinct need for redemption.</p>
<p>The author consistently demonstrated eisegesis (reading into the Scriptures).  For example, the author refers to the meeting of Boaz and Ruth in a field one night.  Scriptures tell us that Boaz put his blanket over Ruth to show his promise of protection.  The author purports that Boaz was drunk (thus irresponsible, acting as men usually do), and that Ruth was manipulative, causing Boaz to think that he had illicit sex with her (pp. 227-230).  Little research was done into the customs of the time, so the Bible is interpreted in light of 21st century ideas about society and culture.</p>
<p>Eldredge&#8217;s concept of God&#8217;s revelation leaves much to be desired.  &#8220;God is intimately personal with us and he speaks in ways that are peculiar to our own quirky hearts &#8212; not just through the Bible, but through the whole of creation.  To Stasi he speaks through movies.  To Craig he speaks through rock and roll (he called me the other day after listening to &#8220;Running Through the Jungle&#8221; to say he was fired up to go study the Bible).  God&#8217;s word to me comes in many ways &#8212; through sunsets and friends and films and music and wilderness and books.&#8221; (p. 239) (The individuals Eldredge mentions are his immediate family)  Since revelation is held so vaguely, the author has no problem drawing spiritual inferences from culture, such as the theater, refering to several movies (most commonly Braveheart), all of which have no intention to present the Gospel.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My 2009 Reading List by jonathangod</title>
		<link>http://lifeisworship.wordpress.com/2009/11/10/my-2009-reading-list/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>jonathangod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did you think of the book by Eldredge?  I haven&#039;t read it.  The reason I ask is that John MacArthur has really criticized Eldredge.  I think in his book &quot;Fool&#039;s Gold&quot; he has a whole chapter on Wild at Heart.  After reading that review, I didn&#039;t know if the book was worth reading or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did you think of the book by Eldredge?  I haven&#8217;t read it.  The reason I ask is that John MacArthur has really criticized Eldredge.  I think in his book &#8220;Fool&#8217;s Gold&#8221; he has a whole chapter on Wild at Heart.  After reading that review, I didn&#8217;t know if the book was worth reading or not.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My 2009 Reading List by Matt</title>
		<link>http://lifeisworship.wordpress.com/2009/11/10/my-2009-reading-list/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Michael Crichton books were a welcome diversion.  I do not usually include my fictional reading in my reading lists, but I particularly enjoyed these two stories.  I had heard of Crichton through the movies Jurassic Park (and its sequels) as well as The Andromeda Strain and Sphere.  Unfortunately, State of Fear will never be made into a movie because of the prevailing media attitudes toward climate change (at the very least a movie by that title will be only vaguely related to the book).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Michael Crichton books were a welcome diversion.  I do not usually include my fictional reading in my reading lists, but I particularly enjoyed these two stories.  I had heard of Crichton through the movies Jurassic Park (and its sequels) as well as The Andromeda Strain and Sphere.  Unfortunately, State of Fear will never be made into a movie because of the prevailing media attitudes toward climate change (at the very least a movie by that title will be only vaguely related to the book).</p>
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		<title>Comment on November 2008 Elections: Voting Is Worship by Matt</title>
		<link>http://lifeisworship.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/november-2008-elections-voting-is-worship/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am officially recanting this post.  I will vote for McCain, and here is why.  I have many beefs against McCain, most of which conservatives would readily admit.  Perhaps the most glaring are the McCain-Feingold bill which essentially gutted the 1st Amendment (if it didn&#039;t, it was the swinging of the butcher&#039;s knife) and his stand on the illegal immigrant amnesty bill of a year or two ago.  Being a preacher, I value greatly my right to speak freely, so I view McCain&#039;s assault on the 1st Amendment is unconscionable.

On the eve of the election, I sat wondering why I should vote for McCain.  I Googled the question, &quot;Why should I vote for McCain?&quot;  I read an article which I will reference in a moment which changed my mind.  I was not an undecided voter; I fully intended to vote the Constitution Party (Chuck Baldwin), so this was not a matter of trying to make up my mind.

I still believe Chuck stands for the right things, but I also realize that standing for the right things is simply not enough.  You can stand for the right things but never accomplish anything significant.  I think McCain at least understands the mindset of conservatives, even if he ignores them.  I know that McCain can reach across the aisle (unfortunately and often at the expense of what is right) to create significant impact.

Perhaps the most convincing arguments were made in a TownHall.com article written in February of this year.  (http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins/2008/02/01/why_youre_going_to_vote_for_john_mccain_in_november_and_like_it!?page=2)

The author addresses the significant turn-over of Supreme Court judges that will occur in the foreseeable future, addressing how the change will the issue of abortion specifically.  The author writes, &quot;May God forgive us if we condemn a million plus children a year to death by abortion because we&#039;re angry at John McCain.&quot;  Being one of many who are angry at McCain, this sentence hit home.  The writer also says in essence that McCain&#039;s tenure would only be four years.  I can live with that in comparison to the decades of damage that Obama would stimulate.

I will vote for McCain tomorrow, but I feel like I am being spanked as I circle that computer-readable dot.

As for my friends who think I was off the reservation for considering a third party candidate, I remind you that Lincoln was a third party candidate.  I also reject the notion that because we do not think identically that my vote means less that someone else&#039;s.    That is the very fear I have with Obama.  If my vote is a throw-away vote, then EVERY vote is a throw-away vote.  I also say that the Republican party left me; I did not leave them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am officially recanting this post.  I will vote for McCain, and here is why.  I have many beefs against McCain, most of which conservatives would readily admit.  Perhaps the most glaring are the McCain-Feingold bill which essentially gutted the 1st Amendment (if it didn&#8217;t, it was the swinging of the butcher&#8217;s knife) and his stand on the illegal immigrant amnesty bill of a year or two ago.  Being a preacher, I value greatly my right to speak freely, so I view McCain&#8217;s assault on the 1st Amendment is unconscionable.</p>
<p>On the eve of the election, I sat wondering why I should vote for McCain.  I Googled the question, &#8220;Why should I vote for McCain?&#8221;  I read an article which I will reference in a moment which changed my mind.  I was not an undecided voter; I fully intended to vote the Constitution Party (Chuck Baldwin), so this was not a matter of trying to make up my mind.</p>
<p>I still believe Chuck stands for the right things, but I also realize that standing for the right things is simply not enough.  You can stand for the right things but never accomplish anything significant.  I think McCain at least understands the mindset of conservatives, even if he ignores them.  I know that McCain can reach across the aisle (unfortunately and often at the expense of what is right) to create significant impact.</p>
<p>Perhaps the most convincing arguments were made in a TownHall.com article written in February of this year.  (<a href="http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins/2008/02/01/why_youre_going_to_vote_for_john_mccain_in_november_and_like_it" rel="nofollow">http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins/2008/02/01/why_youre_going_to_vote_for_john_mccain_in_november_and_like_it</a>!?page=2)</p>
<p>The author addresses the significant turn-over of Supreme Court judges that will occur in the foreseeable future, addressing how the change will the issue of abortion specifically.  The author writes, &#8220;May God forgive us if we condemn a million plus children a year to death by abortion because we&#8217;re angry at John McCain.&#8221;  Being one of many who are angry at McCain, this sentence hit home.  The writer also says in essence that McCain&#8217;s tenure would only be four years.  I can live with that in comparison to the decades of damage that Obama would stimulate.</p>
<p>I will vote for McCain tomorrow, but I feel like I am being spanked as I circle that computer-readable dot.</p>
<p>As for my friends who think I was off the reservation for considering a third party candidate, I remind you that Lincoln was a third party candidate.  I also reject the notion that because we do not think identically that my vote means less that someone else&#8217;s.    That is the very fear I have with Obama.  If my vote is a throw-away vote, then EVERY vote is a throw-away vote.  I also say that the Republican party left me; I did not leave them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on If You Don&#8217;t Worship on Monday, You Most Certainly Will Not Worship on Sunday by thompsonroadyouth</title>
		<link>http://lifeisworship.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/if-you-dont-worship-on-monday-you-most-certainly-will-not-worship-on-sunday/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>thompsonroadyouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps one&#039;s lack of worship during the week could be as a result of the failure to walk with God with a pure heart.  As I examine worship in the Bible I notice especially in the interactions of the needy with Christ that their sins were forgiven then they worshiped.  Perhaps the process would look something like:  forgiveness of sins (a renewed fellowship w/ God), thanksgiving, worship then obedience to service.  Look at the Samaritan leper in Luke 17 who returned to glorify Christ and he was made whole.  We only see part of this process illustrated in this example, but indeed we find forgiveness of sins, thanksgiving, then worship!  What our Sunday morning Christians need is Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday (etc...) forgiveness, thanksgiving, worship and obedience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps one&#8217;s lack of worship during the week could be as a result of the failure to walk with God with a pure heart.  As I examine worship in the Bible I notice especially in the interactions of the needy with Christ that their sins were forgiven then they worshiped.  Perhaps the process would look something like:  forgiveness of sins (a renewed fellowship w/ God), thanksgiving, worship then obedience to service.  Look at the Samaritan leper in Luke 17 who returned to glorify Christ and he was made whole.  We only see part of this process illustrated in this example, but indeed we find forgiveness of sins, thanksgiving, then worship!  What our Sunday morning Christians need is Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday (etc&#8230;) forgiveness, thanksgiving, worship and obedience.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Voting Is Worship &#8212; Part 2 by thompsonroadyouth</title>
		<link>http://lifeisworship.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/voting-is-worship-part-2/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>thompsonroadyouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, the &quot;principle&quot; does matter too.  There&#039;s a whole lot of people in America voting for the wrong principle.  And it&#039;s not just that I don&#039;t agree with their principle, it&#039;s that their principle is intrinsically wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the &#8220;principle&#8221; does matter too.  There&#8217;s a whole lot of people in America voting for the wrong principle.  And it&#8217;s not just that I don&#8217;t agree with their principle, it&#8217;s that their principle is intrinsically wrong.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A. W. Tozer on American Theology by thompsonroadyouth</title>
		<link>http://lifeisworship.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/a-w-tozer-on-american-theology/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>thompsonroadyouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So true.  

God used Israel in the O.T. as a model for the rest of the world to see what it would be like for people to have a relationship with God.

When they chose to make God into their image they served themselves and were nationally (and spiritually) devastated.  Yet when they elevated their view of God above themselves (ie Temple worship) they excelled in all areas such as education, military, economy, family...

We cannot disconnect a nation&#039;s view of God from their ability to succeed. We may deduce that a nation&#039;s success rises and falls upon it&#039;s ability to honor the Lord from border to border, front door to front door, wallet to wallet, musket to musket...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So true.  </p>
<p>God used Israel in the O.T. as a model for the rest of the world to see what it would be like for people to have a relationship with God.</p>
<p>When they chose to make God into their image they served themselves and were nationally (and spiritually) devastated.  Yet when they elevated their view of God above themselves (ie Temple worship) they excelled in all areas such as education, military, economy, family&#8230;</p>
<p>We cannot disconnect a nation&#8217;s view of God from their ability to succeed. We may deduce that a nation&#8217;s success rises and falls upon it&#8217;s ability to honor the Lord from border to border, front door to front door, wallet to wallet, musket to musket&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Absence Is Worship by Matt</title>
		<link>http://lifeisworship.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/my-absence-is-worship/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barrett&#039;s intention was not that this is a matter of interpretation so much as it is that we cannot just have good intentions when we worship.  You have probably heard the saying, &#039;The road to hell is paved with good intentions.&#039;  Barrett&#039;s other intention was to keep us from thinking that we can approach God with whatever, expecting Him to accept it simply because we offer it.  Malachi warned Israel of this very practice when they offered sick and deformed animals for worship in the Temple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barrett&#8217;s intention was not that this is a matter of interpretation so much as it is that we cannot just have good intentions when we worship.  You have probably heard the saying, &#8216;The road to hell is paved with good intentions.&#8217;  Barrett&#8217;s other intention was to keep us from thinking that we can approach God with whatever, expecting Him to accept it simply because we offer it.  Malachi warned Israel of this very practice when they offered sick and deformed animals for worship in the Temple.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Absence Is Worship by crazyyehyah</title>
		<link>http://lifeisworship.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/my-absence-is-worship/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>crazyyehyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true, that&#039;s for sure or Uzzah wouldn&#039;t have died.  But then why are we so conflicted as to what the Bible &#039;says&#039; about the those methods?  Is there really room for interpretation of the Scriptures or are we just trying to justify our own unwillingness to change?  Curious thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true, that&#8217;s for sure or Uzzah wouldn&#8217;t have died.  But then why are we so conflicted as to what the Bible &#8217;says&#8217; about the those methods?  Is there really room for interpretation of the Scriptures or are we just trying to justify our own unwillingness to change?  Curious thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on November 2008 Elections: Voting Is Worship by Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I obviously wrote this article before McCain picked his veep.  I do think it is interesting that minds have been suddenly and radically changed because of McCain&#039;s pick, but that is a political commentary that I will not make.  The point of this article was simply that voting is an expression of our worship as we show our love for Christ by caring enough for my fellow citizens to vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I obviously wrote this article before McCain picked his veep.  I do think it is interesting that minds have been suddenly and radically changed because of McCain&#8217;s pick, but that is a political commentary that I will not make.  The point of this article was simply that voting is an expression of our worship as we show our love for Christ by caring enough for my fellow citizens to vote.</p>
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